In the most recent book by Ben Lerner, titled “Transcription,” the protagonist accidentally drops his phone into the sink following a trip to Rhode Island for a crucial interview. This interview is with Thomas, a 90-year-old mentor and the father of a friend from university, known for his exceptional intellect. Despite not having a means to record the conversation, the protagonist proceeds with the interview. The novel documents this conversation, even though the phone fails to do so.
During an episode of “Bookends with Mattea Roach,” Lerner discussed how the novel delves into the concept of truth in fiction, exploring the protagonist’s journey back to his alma mater and the significance of conducting what Thomas refers to as an “exit interview.” This interview holds immense importance as it might be the last time Thomas will speak on record.
Lerner touched upon the protagonist’s reluctance to admit to not recording the interview, attributing it to a mix of reverence for Thomas and a fear of confronting Thomas’s mortality. The novel explores the idea that while the interview remains unrecorded, the essence of it is captured in the fiction itself, highlighting what writing can convey that traditional recording mediums might miss.
The discussion further delves into the theme of media and human communication, illustrating how individuals serve as conduits for transmitting messages, each adding their own nuances and interpretations. Lerner emphasized the complexity and beauty that can arise from human-to-human communication, reflecting emotional depth that may not be captured through conventional recording methods.
Regarding the juxtaposition of being a mentor and a parent, Lerner shared his contemplations on the challenges of balancing artistic expression with familial responsibilities. He pondered on the tension between embracing unpredictability in writing while maintaining a sense of reliability as a parent, acknowledging the struggles of navigating these dual roles.
In exploring the interplay between irony and authenticity in his work, Lerner expressed his interest in irony that ultimately leads back to sincerity. He highlighted how the irony within “Transcription” underscores the protagonist’s struggles to capture voices accurately, yet the novel itself manages to convey something meaningful, showcasing how irony can enhance authenticity in artistic expression.

